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and then we have this

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presentation by two Brazilian

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researchers into an incident which

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allegedly took place on the 20th of

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January

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in Virginia this year

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and they were showing these photographs

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from the slides now we already spent two

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or three days talking with researchers

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and people who were there

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and that is Stanton T Friedman John

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carpent and myself to discover as much

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as we could about this extraordinary

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incident I could tell you that the two

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gave a very very polished presentation

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on that stage and that's that's a video

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so let's get back to the slides

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and

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just very quickly take you through this

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sequence the story itself is

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not so straightforward in that there'd

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been a buildup of activity in and around

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the vargina district prior to that

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incident on January the 20th

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it is as detailed and laid out

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as best I can in the current magazine

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I was literally having stuff translated

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for me 15 minutes before I flew out of

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kuratiba and onto Sao Paulo for the

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return trip

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but I think the information

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is there

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and let's just take you through a few of

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the personalities

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this is uh

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pakachini

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name

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um who I photographed in John

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Carpenter's hotel room

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next door to me there was Stanton

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Friedman and this was at the start of a

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two-hour interview

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we got it all on tape

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in which he gave us even more details

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about this extraordinary case that had

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when in the red sweater is aurolina

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Augusta and to the right Mr orico de

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Freitas

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and that little girl

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is the gentleman in the red sweater's

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daughter who saw this UFO just a few

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now

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in the red sweater again

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aurolina Augusta

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and to the right Mr yuriko de Freitas

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now this is a couple who are woken up in

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the early hours when their horses were

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obviously panicking they went out and

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they saw what the lady here described as

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a flying submarine

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this cigar-shaped object traveling

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across the crops

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they both sell it and

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the dogs were barking a feral bit

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and the description tied in exactly with

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that drawn by that little girl

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now the gentleman in the center of the

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photograph here is a famous Brazilian

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journalist gualat the andrada speaking

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with the farmer and aurolina

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and on the right

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there's our friend who you saw a picture

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of earlier Rodriguez pakachini I did get

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here they are again ordinary farming

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couple

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20th of January

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a creature is spotted

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strange creature

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down there in the Woodland this is

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and this is the same spot

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where people saw this creature from

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this is number three Switzerland Street

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in the jardim Andre District of Virginia

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and just to the left of there is where

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fire trucks from the city fire

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this is looking down at the side of this

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first encounter

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Gentleman on the left in the white shirt

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slope looking up to where the trucks

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and this is the Brazilians love to use

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out its impressions for all of their

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reports so this is exactly what happened

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according to eyewitness testimony

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the fire officials you see have called

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out for any kind of strange animals and

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dangerous creatures throughout Brazil I

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mean my God they have all kinds of weird

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and wonderful creatures out there

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um a few of them I managed to see myself

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in a local Zoo which is right opposite

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the uh the venue where we hold a

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conference this strange creature's scene

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so the firemen climbed down this steep

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slope approach

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they place it into a wooden box the

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military arrived the military take it

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those military incidentally are from the

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Escola de sargentos de Amos ESA

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the local militia

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this is the headquarters a very dark

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picture I'm afraid of the Virginia City

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difficult words I know but I'm sure if

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the Brazilians get a tape of this

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not if I get any of their names wrong

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again a darkened image but this is the

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rear of number 76 Buena vento braspire

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street where the second creature was

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spotted at 3 30 pm on 20th of January

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second creature in the afternoon

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well Cole's played about half past eight

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in the morning the Virginia City Fire

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Department come and get the first

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creature at 10 o'clock that Saturday

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morning everything's then Rosy and quiet

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in the garden so to speak and another

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call comes in

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and this is the exact spot

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where this creature was seen crouching

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very very close to the building and if

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you look very very carefully you can see

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a Brazilian researcher in this picture

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adopting that crouched position just

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batteries failing on the old laser never

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and these are the three girls who saw it

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Liliana Fatima Silva on the left alkira

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vatima Silva in the middle both sisters

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and Katya andrada Xavier point to the

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precise location where they saw the

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creature

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they saw it and they ran like hell

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thinking it was the devil

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and that's an artist's impression of

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this creature three raised humps

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brilliant red eyes

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arteries veins that were all over its

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body but more pronounced at the back

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this is the mother and the two daughters

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and here

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obriara Franco Rodriguez one of the

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researchers holds up a drawing of the

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creatures made by Liliana Fatima and you

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can see the two

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guys I'm gonna have to ask you to press

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the forward on the slides I'm afraid

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because the battery looks like it's gone

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in this remote control I'll keep trying

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here's a close-up of the drawing made by

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seem to have got it now now they help

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public meetings immediately after this

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incident

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and members of the public and other

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eyewitnesses attended the press

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conferences

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that were called as well

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Rodriguez pakachini Seated on the left

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now all of these people who attended

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saw what was going on

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every one of them

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they all had something to say well we

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saw the fire truck well we saw the

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military we saw them throw the Nets over

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we saw the kids throwing stones at the

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second creature they were laughing they

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were throwing stars at the goddamn thing

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you know I mean it was just unbelievable

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it's the kind of stuff this was I mean

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Rodriguez speaks perfect English and he

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was tell him it just as as I'm telling

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it to yourselves

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some idea of the media attention

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the incident

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did you see any film clips news images

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stories coming out of Brazil in January

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February this year I didn't either

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here's uh Harvard professor of

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Psychiatry John Mack

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who was called Down by two medical

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colleagues

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who were alerted to this incident

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he said if these girls are making this

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then I will tear up my Psychiatry

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qualifications and diploma and burn them

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and walk out

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here's a team photograph

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and guess who's not looking at the

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camera

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when the pitch is taken but decides to

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read a magazine himself instead John

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what happened to the second creature

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we're pretty sure of what happened to

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the first nobody knows for certain the

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second creature

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the one that was captured at 3 30. for

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some reason the military decided

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to take it to the front entrance of

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vagina's Regional Hospital

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and that's a picture of the regional

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hospital in Virginia

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no wonder they've accumulated over 60

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witnesses eyewitnesses to this

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then on Monday the 22nd of January uh

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Convoy of trucks parked here

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on this very Road spot between three

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Hospital why Humanities Hospital why not

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the regional hospital in Virginia that's

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because the doctors at bargina looked at

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the creature in that Regional hospital

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we can't treat this we're not qualified

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we don't have the equipment so they took

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it out and they went to Humanities

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here's one of the researchers Eduardo

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pascador outside the side entrance to

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Humanities hospital where a truck drove

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in to retrieve the second creature and

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deliver it to the military school that's

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and this is an artist's impression of

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the scene inside now if you look at the

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magazine you will see that we have

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identified every single one of those

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military people present their names

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their ranks they're all known

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there are at least seven interviews on

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with some of these people who were

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and all of that information has yet to

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go out

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the guy incidentally who videotaped all

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of this scene for the military was

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identified as a sergeant Pedrosa of S2

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the military truck was then seen by

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nurses and doctors and even people

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working in the catering Department

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parking up

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to the hospital Doorway to remove this

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second creature

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and then at four o'clock on the morning

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of Tuesday the 23rd of January a convoy

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of military trucks and private Vehicles

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left Virginia for the Escola

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preparatoria the cadets M Campinas

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that's the Army Cadet school at cambinus

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not predominantly Cadets it's one of

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Brazil's biggest

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military bases

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if memory serves me right I think I've

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said about 350 kilometers away

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even the detail of the front truck there

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on that Convoy was was noticed by people

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you know it was a Volkswagen van

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and this is General Collier Lima common

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dance of that to

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Cadets and Campinas and the man who has

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ordered a massive security clamp down

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uh Rodriguez

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pakachini the principal investigator

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for sure has to walk around now with a

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bulletproof vest around him if anybody

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else has his name in public that is the

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military and they're given an immediate

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10-day detention

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he is not a pretty man I mean well I

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mean look at him

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really is it's um

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I took Christine with me and uh she was

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pretty frightened to be honest with you

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when we got into uh kuritiva

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um our plane had been delayed nobody was

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there to meet us

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um

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nobody spoke English and the military

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are everywhere I mean they just handle

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tommy guns and machine guns and pistols

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like you wouldn't believe you know I

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fully expected somebody to start

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twirling a pistol around their finger at

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one point and the other disturbing

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feature which we saw out there was that

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everywhere on every street corner and

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you know there's just thousands and

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thousands of posters of missing people

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and of course kids

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and it was a pretty uh harrowing time

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three of the guys researchers who

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deserve a mention Opera Franco Rodriguez

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on the left Edison Junior in the center

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and he's alongside on the right Louis

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Petry who's done more than most he's a

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TV journalist he works on a program

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called Fantastico in Brazil to get this

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that is actually a shot a still frame

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from a video of of one of the interviews

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that Rodriguez pakachini did with one of

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the key military witnesses to this

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particular incident

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and then after it had seemingly all died

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down here we had this Mrs terrazino

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Gallow cleft

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who

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in April of this year

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three months after this Main Event April

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saw this here's a drawing

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held up by a researcher Claudia kovo

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made by Mrs Clapp for this creature that

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she saw on the 21st of April

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now you can just make out the Brazilian

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researchers standing there and at the

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back of this restaurant area here she

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just nipped out for a cigarette

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um this is where she observed the

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creature this is at the rear of jardim

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Zoological de vagina that's the vagina

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Zoo Gardens restaurant

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and

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then you had things like this

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I mean UFO researchers are used to

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ringing up people Brazilians go some Way

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Beyond that they literally printed

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thousands of these leaflets and this

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actually says

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if you have some information about this

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case talk with us

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Obrigado thank you and they were shoving

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them in doorways they were putting them

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up on walls and of course people were

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ringing the number yes we've seen this

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but think back to what Mrs plep saw here

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we are

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incident happens on the 20th of January

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and we go through February we go through

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March we're into April back end and she

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sees another creature and of course the

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questions then that were asked were

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are there more creatures like this in

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and around the area that haven't yet

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been found or has somebody come back

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looking for lost friends

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this is the front code of the style

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magazine

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and uh

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it actually says the mystery of the

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Brazilian ET now this was published on

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the 22nd of May 1996 and still word has

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to carry about the significance of this

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incident which I literally have just

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scraped the surface of in this

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presentation

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it's an important case in my opinion and

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it's something that is shared I Believe

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by Stanton as well as John Carpenter

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and that

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the quality of the witnesses

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and and the sheer numbers of the

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witnesses left a deep impression on all

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three of us we were extremely impressed

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by the fact that the Brazilian

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investigators who went out there and

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literally knocked on doors did so

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immediately after this thing happened

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it's not as if we're looking at another

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Roswell incident

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we don't know for sure certainly there

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are witnesses who claim to have seen

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trucks coming out of our Gina with

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strange looking wreckage on the back

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we're hoping they're hoping that there

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are some souvenir Hunters out there

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certainly there is evidence that the

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Americans that were there in a very very

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big way some of which I've touched upon

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in a magazine

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they've taken a real blatting of these

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researches from armchair ufologists I

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hate to use that word ufologist at the

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end of armchair

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people who haven't traveled there who

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have never met pakachini and all these

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other guys wonderful men and women as to

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be said

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um who bent over backwards

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to literally share every snippet of

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information that they possibly could and

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their message that was given to me to

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Stanton and to John

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they asked to pass on to you

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please believe us

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we are not

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amateurs

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we go out in the field and they stress

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this point again and again and again we

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are field researchers

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they have the interviews

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they have a hell of a story to tell and

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I'm proud and privileged to be able to

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pass that story on through the pages of

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our magazine and of course here at this

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conference today

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and I really really hope and I'm keeping

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the fingers crossed that it won't be too

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long before we're able to bring some of

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these people across from Brazil and